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An FYI for Tolkien Fanfic Authors, Particularly Group Mods

The (Cyber) Bag of Weasels

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"About as much fun as a bag of weasels"...when I first saw this Irish adage, it made me think of the life of a writer: sometimes perilous, sometimes painful, certainly interesting. My paper journal has always been called "The Bag of Weasels." This is the Bag of Weasels' online home.

An FYI for Tolkien Fanfic Authors, Particularly Group Mods

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As most of you know, I despise online drama, particularly drama related to fan fiction. It's ridiculous. This is a hobby, and there is no reason for people's lives to be ruined, for there to be tears and death threats made about fan fiction.

In keeping with this, I have always taken care not to mention names when discussing individuals behaving negatively in the fanfic community in my LiveJournal posts. Likewise, I generally f-lock material that might start a "flame war" or any sort of drama with these individuals. The fact remains that this is a hobby for me. I have a family, a job, a life, and a budding writing career that are all more important than raising my blood pressure and, most importantly, wasting my time than some idiot's personal beef with my fan fiction.

However, things have escalated to the point where I would like to make a sort of "FYI" to others who participate in the Tolkien fanfic community, particularly moderators of groups, archives, and communities. Most of you have been well aware of this individual for some time now, but as I said, things have escalated to an unacceptable level.

That I must waste a perfectly good Sunday afternoon, fit for writing or working on my website, is dismaying in itself but such is life, I guess. :)

I am going to avoid naming individuals (except the guilty) and particularly archives, as I do not know what is public knowledge and what individuals want to be revealed. (If you are involved and do not mind your name being known, or if you are part of one of the archives involved and wish that name being published, please let me know, and I will edit my post.) However, it recently happened that a friend of mine posted a Maedhros/Fingon slash story on a small archive that accepts stories from multiple fandoms as well as original fiction. The archive was "slash friendly," though (apparently) not much slash was posted there.

Many of you are familiar with the author who used to post under the pen name "The Last Temptation of Homer" and now uses "The Battling Bard." Well, she had sung the praises of this archive for months, primarily because she is in bitter opposition to slash and not much (if any?) was found there. Well, when this slash story was posted, she proceeded to flame the author, despite the fact that story was clearly labeled as being "slash" and "AU." On a moderated archive, this should not be acceptable, and the archive took some steps so that slash was more clearly marked as slash and posted a public reminder that the archive was "slash-friendly" and that readers needed to use their discretion in choosing what stories to read.

Now The Battling Bard had recently been kicked off of another, much-larger fan fiction archive for her aggressive behavior towards authors who did not meet her rather nebulous standards of "quality" or "canon." Shortly after being kicked off of this archive, she began a personal vendetta against it, claiming it as one of the worst in the Tolkien community, despite having embraced the same place before, prior to being kicked off after numerous warnings for her antics. Now, she has started the same behavior towards the "slash-friendly" archive.

Nonetheless, this reeks of simple fandom drama: She can't abide by the rules or TOS at a place, so she slams the archive for protecting its other members. Nothing odd there. However, in a thread on the fanfiction.net forums called The Pushuruk Awards, she made a death threat against the author who had posted slash at the "slash-friendly" archive. It has since been removed, as the management of ff.net was informed. However, this is what she said:
I have a sudden desire to murder all slash writers. For a number of blissful years, *archive omitted* has been slash free, now it's been invaded by one of those bloody 'tasteful' slash writers. It's Fingon/Maedhros. They're cousins for bloody gods sake! THAT IS SICK DIE YOU SICK slash writing B**TARDS!! What I wouldn't do to have 5 minutes alone with that author in a closet with a semi automatic. That offend you? GOOD!
The thread in which this threat was issued is here. Later, she says:
As for the 'death threat'. For gods sake get over yourself, I was only messing around. I'm going to delete that post anyway because someone reported it to ff.n.
Clearly, this person (and others who comment in this thread) are nuts who really need to get a life, a boyfriend (or girlfriend ;), or a good vibrator. In the past, I have been happy to ignore them or write them off as nuts, but this is just a step too far for me and many others who have had contact with The Battling Bard in the past. She ignores the mission and TOS of a site, gets reprimanded, and proceeds to make death threats against the author whose story she didn't like because she (The Battling Bard) ignored the TOS...yes, the logic of that escapes me too. It's kind of like reading on the side of a Styrofoam coffee cup, "CAUTION: HOT"; being verbally warned by the person serving you the coffee that it is hot; intentionally dumping the hot coffee in your lap; and then suing the person who served you the coffee because it was hot. No, it makes no sense, but what more do we expect from someone like this?

I know that many people have been trolled by this individual in the past. I have received correspondence from authors who will not post on ff.net because of the behavior that is permitted there in terms of reviews. I know of people who have stopped posting there or deleted their accounts because of certain reviewers there, and yes, The Battling Bard's name comes up quite often in those discussions. I can't make decisions for other writers, but it is my hope that authors stop allowing asshats like The Battling Bard and "Celegorm" and others who act like disgruntled Neanderthals with hemorrhoids to bully them around. These individuals clearly have no interest in enjoying themselves in this community. They do not review to help or encourage authors. They are quite likely playing a few cards short of a full deck, and at the very least, they have exaggerated the effect of fan fiction on the fate of the world. They also have trouble finding the BACK button on their browsers. These are not people that we should respect. And so these are not people whom we should allow to affect the fun and enjoyment from what is--for the most part--a wonderfully amiable and supportive community.

But that aside, as the owner/mod of a fan fiction group, I do take these things seriously. I want people to have fun in my group, and idiots like The Battling Bard are toxic to this purpose. And so those of you with groups or communities, if you don't know her name, then learn it. She previously went under the moniker of "The Last Temptation of Homer." If you manage an LJ community, please be aware that she has an account here (battlingbard22), and I suspect that it's only a matter of time before she begins trying her antics on our comms, since she's quickly running out of archives where she is welcome.

Unfortunately, although LJ allows us to monitor when we are added as friends by another user, it does not enable the same of our comms...at least, so far as I can tell. FAQ #84 details how to remove and ban troublemakers from communities. Hopefully, none of us will have to use it, but it's good to know what we can do in case we do.

Sadly, because of her behavior, as I try to get the SWG site off of the ground (even if just barely hovering ;), I have spent most of my discussions with my co-mods not on the archive or the references or cool things that we might do with the group...no, we have talked about policies and reprimands and what we will do when (inevitably, I fear) one of these idiots decides to test the waters in our group.

However! There is a spark of light: Apparently, I am just as high on her shit list as she is on mine. Yep, the estimable satismagic and I have been picked out by The Battling Bard and "Celegorm" as The Smuggest Fan Fiction Writer of the Year in their little Pushuruk Awards. Given the fact that jael_the_scribe has been added since I last viewed the forum this morning, I can reliably conclude that "smug" actually means "people that either give their bullshit right back to them or advocate behaving in a mature and rationale manner with regards to fan fiction." Juno, of course, is the author of the excellent How to Review and moderates a ff.net forum of the same name. Jael's replies to their idiocy in some of the threads above are applause-worthy, and I have had the distinct pleasure of corresponding with both The Battling Bard and "Celegorm" about some comments that they made on my stories. Neither replied or provided me with the citations that I requested, and I haven't heard from either since, though apparently, I must have been memorable.

But silliness aside, this is an individual who has made death threats against an author over fan fiction. Please keep that in mind and also (please please please) help to stop this trend of allowing asshats to influence where we share our work. These people do not deserve our respect, and they especially do not deserve our attention.

Now I'm off to try to enjoy my Sunday afternoon. And don't forget to vote for Juno, Jael, and me as the Smuggest Fanficcers of the Year! :)
  • Ah, so this is the context... Juno posted something about it earlier today (yesterday?), and I looked through it without understanding it in full.

    It blows that you have to actually waste time by addressing this issue, though it's good to get the message out there for other groups and archives.

    I mean, holy mother of God! I still can't get over the fact that this lunatic... is, well, being such a lunatic. People make such a massive deal out of fanfiction and all the associated drama, when at the end of the day, it's a hobby. It's for fun. Get a life.

    Sheesh.

    PS- How is Alex liking all the snow? I was home last night, and my dog (Chewy) likes to go out and get it all over his beard by snuffling around in it... and then putting his chin on my knee, getting it all wet. *snickers*
  • (no subject) - satismagic
    • Right, obviously.

      *shakes head* I just can't comprehend it. It's... sad. If you choose a hobby, why would you pick tearing other people apart as it? You don't have to read any of the crud if you don't want to: it's as simple as not clicking the link.

      It makes even *less* sense because you and Dawn are two of the most rational people when it comes to fanfiction and all the drama surrounding it.

      Oy vey.
      • I really think that's part of the problem they have with us. Juno's forums and my profile both make it clear that fanfic is a hobby for us, that it's not worth getting one's panties in a twist over it, and that we do not think highly of asshats who are likely to draw comparisons between Mary Sue and genocide. In other words, we represent exactly what these people do not stand for. That makes us smug, from their PoV.

        I can't speak for Juno, but yes, I do believe that I am above such people. I wish sometimes that they would go and read their own words only substitute "competitive marbles" or "lint-ball collecting" or something similarly inane for "fan fiction." This hobby is fun, yes, and it's important to me, but at the end of the day, it's a hobby and it really matters very little in the larger scheme of things. Devoting hours of each day to intentionally reading things that we find upsetting and creating an identity centered entirely on shared misery over fan fiction is beyond ridiculous.
  • Yes, reading the "death threat" thread, we see such proof of intellect as:

    jules14: "Have you ever had an experience where an author who has one of your best stories on his or her favorites list also has the worst, most cliched Mary Sues ever on that favorites list? Trust me; it makes you feel awful."

    OMG the world might end when that happens!

    The Battling Bard: "The most disheartening thing that can happen is when you discover your most faithful reviewer gave a good review to 'An Elf's Love'. Now THAT's depressing."

    OMG! OMG! OMG! *faints*

    jules14 replies: "Still, I think your situation is worse than mine. Your most FAITHFUL reviewer? I know that would make me depressed enough to leave this site. Well, hang in there; I think you're one of barely ten writers on this site that actually writes decent Tolkien fanfiction."

    (Dawn, then, wonders why if quality is so scarce and it is so obviously bothersome, then why continue to read on that site at all??)

    Araiona Dubois: "Oh Iluvatar, now that's bad. *shudder* It makes you wonder if people are completly sane at all hours of the day or if they have mental breakdowns and just 'give in' to the Sues. Be strong people! Be strong!"

    Because, didn't you know, Mary Sue is going to cause nuclear holocaust??

    (Meanwhile, if that first name is supposed to be Elvish, I strongly suggest that she check out Claudio's Elvish name tutorial. *shudder*)

    Anyway, I could keep going, but I think that you get my point. ;) These people have an exaggerated sense of how important this is. It's an effing hobby. If only they could put this sort of concern and effort into something that matters!

    And Alex likes the snow...but not so much the ice. :) Not to be more disgusting than is par for the course in my LJ ;), but he holds his poop because he has trouble squatting on the ice. He's gone ass over tin cup a few times in the past few days, when he forgets that running on the solid sheet of ice that is our front yard is not such a good idea!

    But he does love to eat snow (though we don't have any snow, at the moment, that is not frozen solid), and whenever he goes outside, then he is allowed to bring a chunk of ice back to the apartment with him to eat. Alex hasn't yet figured out that ice is not food.
    • (no subject) - satismagic
    • *raises both eyebrows* Why, didn't you get the memo, Dawn? The world revolves around fanfiction. Bush interprets the Iraq agenda from ff.net.

      Araiona

      It's like a box of Cracker Jack: you never know what pronunciation you're going to get! "Air-ay-oh-na?" "Are-eye-oh-na?" "Are-oy-na?" The possibilities are endless!

      These people have an exaggerated sense of how important this is. It's an effing hobby. If only they could put this sort of concern and effort into something that matters!

      Yes! Exactly! *wild !!!!!!s* It drives me off the wall whenever I hear about these sorts of things. It's constructive versus destructive; if everyone was constructive... Kind of boggles the mind how much great stuff could come out of that, in a totally theoretical sense.

      Another fandom kerfuffle, in the end, and there's nothing for it but to deal and move on to reading and writing.

      Hee! It's insane here because Chewy loves to go galumphing through the snow when it's totally up to his chest. Makes for an interesting picture.
      • Can you imagine how much better a place this world would be if such idiots chose to read about atrocities on the Amnesty International website (versus atrocious fan fiction) or wrote letters to their representatives (versus flames to fanfic authors)?

        Fanfic has always been an escape from those realities for me.

        *raises both eyebrows* Why, didn't you get the memo, Dawn? The world revolves around fanfiction. Bush interprets the Iraq agenda from ff.net.

        BWAHAHAHA!!! In other words, every Mary Sue is a vote for the troop surge and every slash story is a vote against gay marriage? :^D
    • I think you're one of barely ten writers on this site that actually writes decent Tolkien fanfiction.

      Decent? WTF, Homer is mediocre at best. Her stories are of the kind I can't seem to care about. And I don't go spamming her account because of it.

      It's an effing hobby.

      Definitely. Her flame crucade is as childish as it would be to stop to like your friends because they're into different sports/food/whatever. See Dawn, I'm not talking to you anymore because you're OMG vegetarian! Yeah, would make about the same amount of sense, really.
      • It's simply pointless. And it's not even like these people choose the company they keep based on the person's fanfic (which is making me laugh even as I type it!) but are actively seeking to make themselves miserable with said fanfic. (See my post near the bottom of the thread here for a real-life example of doing the same thing. ;)

        Also, I've never read her work. Perhaps I should.
        • Oh, I've seen your post. Really, I've said it somewhere else, but for what do we have summaries? If I read 'Feanor/Frodo, slash, NC-17' what else do I suspect but a bizarrely constructed plot with explicit elf-on-hobbit interspecies mansecks? (Okay, that was a really brain-numbing example, sorry 'bout that...)

          Also, I've never read her work. Perhaps I should.

          Do what you want, really. You won't miss anything if you don't. ;-P
      • I agree, mediocre at best. Have only read one or two of her pieces, and I certainly was not impressed by Her Supposedly Amazing Authoress Skills. I can't remember what they were about even. Certainly neither thought provoking or emotionally engaging.

        I do remember her writing one tiny thing in Old English (I believe it was) that to me just screamed, "Look at me, I am attempting to prove my vast superiority over you lowly so-called authors!!1!!11!!!!1" She seems to have deleted that little gem off of her FFN account now...
    • Oh Iluvatar, now that's bad.

      Riiiight, because Elves take the Creator's name in vain/use it commonly all the time. *sarcasm*
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